Roger Helmer MEP

I was heartened to hear Roger Helmer say that this green agenda is a load of rubbish. I have just about reached the end of the road with David Cameron and his entourage of Tory toffs. I have been a supporter of the conservatives for over 40 years and helped fundraising for the local party. I never thought it would come to this. Even Mrs. T prefers Gordon Brown. DC has made us a laughing stock. Nobody takes him seriously. They just look like a bunch of kids. I do not believe this climate change nonsense - climates have always changed - in the Fifties a series of poor summers were blamed on nuclear bomb tests. All this emission nonsense is just that - the air is cleaner now than ever - no more London smogs, no steel works, no mines, no potteries, no ship-building. Diesel engines are cleaner and life is generally better.Now Dave and his men are trying to deprive us of hard-earned luxuries. If we all went to live in caves it would make not one iota of difference to any climate change, real or imagined. The conservatives are supposed to be the opposition, but we hear no opposition to this appalling government. Stop trying to stop the world Dave - concentrate your efforts on the appalling waste of money and incompetence of this present administration, and then, maybe, Mrs. T will want to see you!

This reminds me of the lobby which up until a few years ago was adamant that smoking does not damage your health.Like proponents of that view I smell a few vested interests here too.Or a few centuries ago some people held desperately to the belief that the earth was flat.There will always be a few loonies/dinosaurs that are unable to accept what has been overwhelmingly accepted by scientific research.It is just highly embarassing that such people should be representatives of our country. No doubt we will look back in all too few years with disbelief that people as late as the first decade of the 21st century could still hold out with such overwhelingly disproven lunatic theories.

Mr Paul -

Have you ever heard of the concept of the “tyranny of the majority”, or studied the history of ancient Athens? It was after all the “Democratic” party that condemned Socrates to death.

The issue of global warming, the “science” (mostly inherently biased, incompetent statistical computer models), the public policy and economics, are far too important to let ourselves be stampeded into draconian measures that may or may not have any impact whatsoever on the planetary climate.

The fact that you have very clearly subscribed to this new dark age religion is your business, but you have no business denying others the democratic right to disagree, and conduct rational debate and argument that opens the way to alternative conclusions.

Final point - if you want to talk about “vested interests”, why don’t you do some research into who created, and funded the “environmentalist” movement througout it’s history, to the present day.

I am in no way denying your democratic right to think anything - I am quite happy for you to think anything you like.

“far too important to let ourselves be stampeded into draconian measures that may or may not have any impact whatsoever on the planetary climate”

So you advocate doing nothing - until we are sure that it will make a positive difference.

Well listen up - there will never be 100% agreement - so if we listen to you we will never do anything to address this or any other problem.

I would rather say:

“far too important to let a few sceptics prevent us from taking the urgent and necessary action which we must be bold enough to take NOW if we are going to be able to be in any way effective in addressing the overwhelmingly PROVEN and crucial problem of climate change.

As for the economy - by leading the world in energy efficient technologies - rather than dragging our feet and arguing inaction - there are huge potential benefits for industry and the economy. f we stay ahead of the game we could maybe even become a manufacturing nation again.

Bob

Actually, if we listen to you then we will be living in an eco-dictatorship.

Let’s take carbon taxes for example…

Just imagine for a minute the kind of bureaucracy it will take to administer such a tax. It would take something as autocratic, corrupt and inefficient as say, erm, the UN or the EU to carry that out. And what a surprise to find that the major “world government” institutions are the most active in pushing this idea.

And what about carbon swaps? Another major boondoggle of the “carbon economy”.

Are these the kinds of “technologies” that you are referring to?

In summary, no, I am not advocating that we do nothing, I am advocating that we immediately stop investing billions of taxpayers money into “climate research”, and put the money into useful, productive industries instead, like space research.

You know, mankind used to believe in the future, now we seem intent on destroying oursevles with pessimism and false, pagan religions like Mr Gore and his ilk are promoting.

Ryan,

And space research is useful and productive? Useful and productive for what may I ask? Star Wars perhaps?

So what we get down to behind all the bluster and analogies with socrates etc is that you do not believe in climate change and since you do not believe in it then nothing should be done about it. And anybody who suggest doing anything about it an eco-fascist.

And I’m an eco dictator because I think that because the majority of experts in the field agree that it is of paramount importance that we should do something about Climate change then we should heed the expert advice and take action.

Yes that really makes sense! I am humbeled by your dazzling logic!