UKIP press release, June 10, 2015 – The lengths they’ll go to stop democracy

On Wednesday June 10th, European Parliament Vice-President, Ildikó Gall-Pelcz defied the rules to frustrate a legitimate democratic protest by UKIP MEPs over the TTIP vote delay. See below the press release that our group issued in response to the incident:

This evening in the European Parliament, Jonathan Arnott, UKIP MEP for the North East and EU budget spokesman, led a protest against the suppression of debate on the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP). Arnott proposed a procedural motion to suspend the sitting “to allow Parliament the opportunity to reflect on the undemocratic actions by President Martin Schulz and other officials to suppress the vote and debate on this issue which is of concern to millions of people across the EU.”

Arnott said: “I proposed suspending Parliamentary debate for the day to highlight this point. The officials on the podium responded with what looked like panic, ringing the division bell and breaking their own rules. The rules demand an immediate vote, but they delayed for over forty minutes to allow their supporters to flood the chamber.”

Roger Helmer, UKIP MEP for East Midlands and energy spokesman, was in the chamber to support the protest. When it became clear the vice-president (Ildikó Gall-Pelcz) was acting in breach of the rules, Helmer broke procedure and went onto the podium to ask her if she realised she was in breach of the rules. “She replied yes. I then asked her if she was happy she was breaking the rules, and she said she was not. And yet she broke the rules anyway.”


Further to the press release, I issued the below memo to President Schulz on Thursday. I will now wait patiently for my inevitable invitation for a meeting (without coffee).


Dear President Schulz,

Yesterday at around 17:30 in the Hemicycle, the EFDD Group invoked Rule 191 to call for a suspension of the sitting, as it was entitled to do.  The objective was to draw attention to our concerns over the delay in debating TTIP, which as you know is of great interest to millions across the EU.

Vice President Ildikó Gall-Pelcz, who was chairing the Session, failed to put the issue to an immediate vote, as she was required to do under Rule 191.  She deliberately prevaricated for around ten minutes, calling two speakers against the motion.  She then suspended the session for thirty minutes, without taking a vote.

I approached her immediately after the suspension and I asked her if she knew that she was in breach of the rules.  She replied “Yes”.

We have here a Vice President of the European parliament consciously and deliberately breaking the rules of the House in order to take a partisan position against a political group.  This is clearly unacceptable.  I am writing to you now, therefore, to ask what disciplinary action you propose to take against Vice-President Gall-Pelcz.

I believe it is your duty as President of this parliament to demonstrate that this is a rules-based institution, and that deliberate breaches of the rules cannot be ignored.  I look forward to your response.

Yours sincerely


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18 Responses to UKIP press release, June 10, 2015 – The lengths they’ll go to stop democracy

  1. Thomas Fox says:

    We await the outcome of thie suspension of discussion (TTIP ) with great interest as the people of member states are certainly not familiar with its implication on future jobs in regards employment in UK and Europe ?

  2. omanuel says:

    Thank you, Roger, for having the courage to speak against tyrannical violation of parliamentary rules.

  3. Peter Palmer says:

    Good luck with that one, Roger.
    Is that the clanking sound of shutters closing and barricades going up?

  4. Brin Jenkins says:

    Rules are for obedience of fools, and the guidance of wise men! It seems that they deem themselves to be the wise men.

    Who will apply the rule now, when, and to who? The message is clear that we are considered the fools, and the wise ones are beyond the law. Its hay making time so lets buy a pitch fork.

  5. Anne says:

    Dear Roger Helmer, very ordinary people like me vote for our own UK Politicians to Govern us according to our very own Common Law Constitution-we also contribute towards their pay and vast expenses so to do-indeed my generation when to WAR in 1939-1945 to prevent foreigners Governing us, and what if we hadn’t won that WAR and Hitler had become Master of all in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland eh? How many of YOU in the EU now would have even been born?

    What is the point in voting and paying NATIONAL MP’s that cannot “SPEAK” for themselves or have a VOICE re the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) to the mighty USA? If we allow the EU to “SPEAK” for All Member States on the TTIP will the EU eventually SPEAK for ALL Member States on everything? Yes, and forever? All present MP’s in ALL Member States in the EU might just as well find themselves what I say “is a proper job” and let foreigners speak for us all forever, eh?

    Are we to close both Houses of Parliament one day because the EU will “SPEAK” for each and every Country presently in the EU? Indeed what is the point in voting and paying for national MP’s when they cannot SPEAK for us? Sorry Roger, people my age that went through a full scale WAR and in our case was bombed out, cannot allow foreigners to Govern us when we fought that War so that those we elect could Govern US according to our own Common law Constitution. Many alive today might never have been born had Hitler had his way-always remember that, and remember too a Prime Minister of our Country once told us that if we joined the then EEC, “there would be no loss of essential Sovereignty” AND LOOK AT US NOW!

  6. Anne says:

    Sadly Roger, it has not gone un-noticed, that our present Government have reduced our defences-again. Repeating History once more? I should imagine all in The EU and Russia etc have celebrated that the UK cannot afford to keep their defences up to scratch. I should think that all of them are laughing their heads off at us! Again, I write what is the point in having ANYONE in those two Houses of Parliament that have to obey the same EU, Directives, Regulations, and Treaties our Government since 1972 those we have elected have ratified.

    All in those Houses of Parliament knew exactly what the then EEC was to eventually become AND STILL THEY WENT AHEAD AND JOINED. They got away with it because WE-the people trusted them- and we had no access to research in Hansard. Here for you however.
    On 3rd August 1961 (column 1735) Mr Shinwell continues his words after having read out a part of the Treaty of Rome, ending with “reinforcement of the European Parliament through direct elections and widening of its powers and, finally, a European Government. That is the intention. That is their object and that is what they are saying and Hon Members can talk until they are black in the face about the Rome Treaty and there being no provision for federation, but there is no doubt that from the declarations made by some of the most influential people–M.Spaak, Professor Hallstein and others who have indicated that there is a definite intention and that once we accept the economic provisions of the Rome Treaty—and it looks as though this government might—they are on their way towards complete political integration”.

    “I wonder what this place will be like during the course of the next ten years? There will not be 630 Hon Members. There will be no need for more than 150 or so. It will be like—”
    Mr A. C. Manuel, “A Council”.
    Mr Shinwell, “I was about to say a Parish Council, with the authority of some kind delegated to it by the European Parliament and dictated to be a European Government. To that we are being led”.

  7. It is this kind of meticulous bravery shown by our host, Mr Helmer, that impresses me so much. Not only did he find out exactly what was wrong, he also had the courage to act (alone) to try to put it right.
    I am coming to the conclusion – very reluctantly indeed actually – that British people have a special honesty and love of fair play which is not shared by our continental friends.

    • Flyinthesky says:

      A bit behind the curve there Mike, our innate sense of fair play has been our downfall all along. It’s one of the fundamental mistakes we make in many, many areas, thinking that other people operate with our mindset and perspective.
      Every eu diktat we implement to it’s fullest and fairest extent, much to the mirth of our neighbours who implement for their best advantage. Further, it’s the arcane complication of legislation that gives rise to the interpretive implementation.

    • David says:

      Bent as a four pound note seems to fit this shady bunch/

  8. Ex-expat Colin says:

    Not sure they have to justify/answer to anybody really. Never looks to me that they give a toss.
    Thing about it for many of them is…well, they have never had it so good.

    Pity the punters…cos they don’t! Hope Greece can safely lead the way out?

  9. David says:

    In a way its good that this happens, as it gives us,& UKIP MEP,s the chance to expose what they will do to get their way, shows how undemocratic the whole circus is. Well done Roger, & Jonathon for trying to inject some democracy, a very very difficult task in a commie outfit.

  10. David says:

    I hope we shall soon see Shultz reply. Oh and sanctions, fines etc against the rule breaker, lol.

    That,l be the day.

  11. Ex-expat Colin says:

    I suppose if I do something like this continuously and blame everybody for miles around and across the channel, a gun would swiftly be pointed at me. That would be a European police person’s gun:

    The continuing UK/EU p*ss take really. Its very serious and with all the money slopped about ..nothing is done? Just some meetings in expensive places and still nothing!

    I think the UK truck drivers need to take the EU to court…swiftly.

  12. Ex-expat Colin says:

    Douglas Carswell (UKIP MP…the only one) on the Greek/EU problem..–years-of/2839

    Pope likely to fail shortly..pity that!

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