Daily Debrief April 20th

Project Fear (Transatlantic edition) fires another salvo

In anticipation of President Obama visiting Britain to help the Queen celebrate her 90th birthday (and lecture her people on the benefits of European subjugation), the FT have reported that a group of his countrymen have written a letter to the Times giving doomsday warnings over Britain’s future economic abilities were we to leave. The group, all former U.S Treasury Secretaries have suggested that despite our being the fifth largest economy in the world, we won’t be able to cut it outside of the EU. This is not surprising since successive governments of the United States have been determinedly trying to break Britain’s independence since the war and indeed the CIA were heavily involved in the movement to put us into the EEC in the first place. I find it hard to believe that these people are true representatives of the worlds guardians of democracy. Whatever they are, they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves.

On a related point, William Hague writes in the Telegraph that he believes Barack Obama is entitled to tell us what America thinks about Brexit. Perhaps William, but that isn’t what he’s doing; he’s telling us what he thinks about Brexit and as such we’re entitled to tell him what he can do with his opinions.

 Meanwhile, from Canadian BoE Head, Mark Carney

Another toll from the doomsday bell of Mark Carney in the Telegraph as he yet again vaguely suggests that the City of London might conceivably catch a cold after Brexit, in such a way that the headline writers can have a field day. I’m tempted to invite all of these North American commentators to imagine a scenario whereby the U.S and Canada was being bullied by the UK and Germany into harmonizing their economies with Mexico, Cuba, Guatemala, Panama and various other assorted neighbours, with the seat of Government situated in Belize.

Great piece from Allister Heath in the Telegraph makes strongest case yet against Osborne

Over the last two days I’ve remarked on Osbornes much criticised claim that Brexit would cost each household £4,300. Of all of the reports I’ve read casting doubts of Osbornes assertions, the article from Allister Heath in the Telegraph yesterday is one of the best. It perfectly sums up why George Osborne has got this so wrong, and also outlines beautifully the attempt of this Chancellor to mislead the British public. I’d encourage you all to read it.

IDS successor blames Brexit fears for unemployment

Eurosceptic Tory Penny Mordaunt has rightly lambasted Work & Pensions Secretary Stephen Crabb for suggesting that a rise in unemployment between December and February might be as a result of Brexit fears. This exemplifies the Governments current campaign which takes Project Fear to new depths. Not long ago an Industry Minister said on a national programme that trade with the EU would cease after Brexit. She apologised later but the damage was done. The good news is this level of desperate duplicity indicates they know they’re going to lose.

I know that we in our party will do all we can to make sure that’s the case.

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16 Responses to Daily Debrief April 20th

  1. Shieldsman says:

    Telegraph Business page is interesting. Mark Carney – “The risks were emanating from the UK’s very high current account deficit”. Whose fault is that?
    Goldman Sachs hit by 56% profit slide amid market turmoil. Do they want to blame it on Brexit?
    FTSE 100 hits new 2016 high.

    I did a rather long comment on the Spectator and it got bumped. It went:
    Why are we having a referendum, have we forgotten. It was Cameron’s decision so what were his reasons.
    David Cameron: the EU is not working and we will change it. I will negotiate a new settlement for Britain in Europe, and then ask the British people: do you wish to stay in the EU on this basis, or leave?
    It is up to the British people to decide if the EU is working any better after Cameron’s visit to Brussels, have the faults been rectified, and decide accordingly.
    Of course Cameron listed many faults with the EU.
    They find the degree of European interference in our everyday life excessive. People are worried that Britain is being sucked into a United States of Europe; that may be what some others want, but it is not for us.They see decisions being taken far away, rather than by their elected representatives in Parliament. (Sovereignty see E.o D.)
    His manifesto:The EU is too bureaucratic and too undemocratic. It interferes too much in our daily
    lives, and the scale of migration triggered by new members joining in recent years has had a real impact on local communities.
    Conservatives believe in controlled immigration, not mass immigration. When immigration is out of control, it puts pressure on schools, hospitals and transport; and it can cause social pressures if communities find it hard to integrate.
    Our plan to control immigration will put you, your family and the British people first. We will reduce the number of people coming to our country with tough new welfare conditions
    and robust enforcement.

    The one thing Cameron forgot to mention was that he would never be allowed to lead a LEAVE vote. Hence the current diplomatic Blitzkrieg on his behalf to get him out of the s- – -.

  2. MIKE MAUNDER says:

    IT’S ALL LOOKING GOOD FOR UKIP AND THE LEAVE THE E.U. CAMPAGNE !
    Mr. Juncker, has broken ranks with our Party Leaders, BY TELLING THE TRUTH. He has said that ” Support for the E.U. is collapsing in all 28 Nations of the E.U.” He goes on to say that too much meddling is bringing the E.U. to a point of ruin . THIS IS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE E.U. COMMISSION ! ! !
    Now I don’t want to shout too early, as Jean-Claude Juncker might be hurried away to a secure hospital, by some of the appointees, and kept out of sight, but I think I just caught a view of the STAY-INS WHITE FLAG !……….. WHO THE HELL WILL VOTE TO STAY WITH E.U. NOW THAT THE PRESIDENT, NO LESS, HAS ADMITTED THEIR FAILURE. Anyone still contemplating a vote for staying, will not just have a screw loose, their brains will be in pieces !
    Nobody can relax until the fat Lady sings ! – but what we need in GB/UK now, is unity of vote. A 100% vote to leave is not possible, due to the clowns that lead our Parties ! ……. but surely Conservatives, voting the same way that Labour votes, and S.N.P. voting with Lib/Dems, tells us all what a load of self serving cretins we have in Parliament. The standing of those M.Ps that want us OUT, no matter what Party they are from, have just hit heights undreamed of !
    AS FOR CAMERON, OSBORNE AND CORBYN, THE WHOLE DAMN LOT OF THEM SHOULD RESIGN, AND A GENERAL ELECTION CALLED. DON’T WAIT FOR 2020. LET THE TRUE PARTY OF U.K.I.P. RIGHTLY HAVE IT’S WAY.

  3. Alan piper says:

    I attended a Vote Leave event recently, hosted by our local,Tory, hereditary peer who has come out for Brexit because, amongst other things, he – unlike his Party’s leadership, wakes up on Fridays wondering how to pay the wages.
    Enough for me.
    (And neither do I but it my case it Monday’s…)

  4. Ken Dickenson says:

    When are Osborne’s downright lies and deception going to be spoken about more widely and loudly. Carney also lied by backing up Osborne and his twisted propoganda.
    Below is a link to a genuine and honest view of the towel-folder’s 200 page report.
    I urge all to read it and the Leave campaigners to repeat it.

    http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/04/the-deceptions-behind-george-osbornes-brexit-report/

  5. Ex-expat Colin says:

    How many trillions in US debt have these fools presided over (contributed to?). Trump rolls that figure out often…about 17Tr+? Anyway, like Osbourne, Carney and those of the EU …why follow anything they throw out.

    If they’d at least pay my rent/mortgage/expense etc I might comply. However, with the EU we pay them to tell us what we should do…spot the loonies here? Staying IN signals more of it…simply that!

  6. The is one benefit to the government blaming everything on Brexit. At least they’ve stopped going on about bloody climate change.

  7. Sterling says:

    Interesting points raised here. Thanks Roger.

  8. right_writes says:

    What I do not understand Roger, is why hardly any spokesman when being told that those that want to leave are a bit odd… taking a leap in the dark… risk takers… etc., don’t point out that there are around 200 nation states and only 28 of them are locked into the EU, the others are the normal ones.

    These remainian oafs have to be spoken to in simple language, it’s all they understand…🙂

    And another thing, why are the BBC allowed to give twenty minutes of their so called news programme to the remainians, and then no more than two minutes to the sensible side, which is then made fun of, by that gurning Kunesburg harridan?

  9. Shieldsman says:

    Mike Maunder,
    I found it in EurActiv.com dated 19th April and it is a really good source of information which the BBC and the MSM never seem to quote, they prefer to live in blissful ignorance of what is going in the EU – musn’t let the Public know Cameron is a liar.

    Record 60% of Europeans ‘tend not to trust’ EU
    The number of Europeans who distrust the European Union has doubled over the past six years to a record high, with bailed-out Greeks and Cypriots having the least faith in the bloc, according to a new Eurobarometer poll.

    The former Luxembourg premier said, “Today we are facing very tough times. We have the global refugee crisis, we have attacks on our free societies, all of our institutions are under immense pressure today and sometimes are really pushed to their limits.”

    Juncker refused to answer a question from Tory MP Kelly Tolhurst, who asked what the EU was doing to cut costs. He snapped that the EU budget was not a matter for the Council of Europe.
    “Stand away from this question which is related to the Brexit debate and not the debate we are having today,” he said.
    “We have made so many efforts to bring down the expenditure [of the EU institutions] I don’t think we can go any further,” he said, before citing the costs of the refugee crisis.

    He also bristled when facing repeated questions about the EU’s controversial migration with Turkey.
    The pact involves resettling one Syrian refugee from a Turkish camp for each Syrian migrant landing in the EU, and it has been criticised for breaking international and European law.
    “It’s not about surrendering European values. I am really not happy about all this criticism levelled at the EU stating that it is surrendering its values by signing this deal with Turkey,” Juncker said.

  10. MIKE MAUNDER says:

    Since my posting of the afternoon, and a pleasant dinner, I got to thinking how the E.U. would disintegrate ! First off, it will not be a time for us to say that we told you so. The currency upheaval will be rough, and on us too, and for a short term around the world. We British can have a head start on all of this, by our vote OUT OF THE E.U. on 23rd.June, but there’s the rub. We need a Government with a clear slate and made up of people that have experience with general employment, rather than just politics. A group of people that can think on their feet, and duck and dive when required, and also understand reasonable Socialism in hand with reasonable Capitalism. A working Government !
    Following clearance from the E.U. – ( Full clearance !). GB/UK should have a General Election with a new Government able to work on the benefits of our freedom. Although the old Parties will still be there, due to right minded M.Ps from the two main Parties, that gave full support to us getting OUT OF THE E.U., I can see U.K.I.P. taking a lot of seats, and quite right too At last a Government fresh from success, but most of all FRESH ! The old left and right of politics was fine for the 20th Century, but we must move on, and if U.K.I.P. is able to talk and deal with the Trade Unions and Business, we could have a very promising NEW START.
    Please don’t hand out Peerages to the defeated. Let them just go away and pick over the lies that they told. One thing that I find strange. – I seem to remember Cameron cutting up about Mr.Juncker being made President of the E.U., not his choice at all ! Cameron and his mates lie to all of us, and then Mr.Juncker tells the truth. Could there be more to it ? On the crash of the E.U., and I hope it will be a gentle wind down, with their accounts not being signed off for 20 years, could we see some appointees becoming very wealthy all of a sudden ? I will only mind if we are daft enough to send more of our money to them. Otherwise let them empty the till, it will have been worth it to see the back of them and their Union !

    • Gary Moses says:

      There could be a sudden rush to leave when the UK departs. It will be like a group of drunks all rushing for the exit door first … so they are not left with the bills.

  11. Shieldsman says:

    Would I be right in thinking that Juncker tells as it is and the biased broadcasting corporation ignores it (must not tell the truth to the plebs).

    As it is the Queens birthday I will be raising my glass of malt to her.

    Further to show my feelings I will be making a Churchillian gesture to Cameron and Obama

  12. davidbuckingham says:

    Obama and the American political establishment supports the EU for their own pragmatic and ideological reasons, as they do Saudi Arabia; added to which Obama’s enthusiasm for executive orders reflects his opinion of democracy.

    • Gary Moses says:

      I think the Americans are here not for the Monarch’s 90th Birthday celebrations – but to iron out any ‘creases’ in “Operation TTIP.”

  13. Frances Fox says:

    Mr Helmer, I think that those in power wanting to keep Britain in the EU is because Obama and his comrades want to use TTIP arrangement with the EU. Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2016 16:06:07 +0000 To: fran_fox_1@hotmail.co.uk

  14. Andrew Halloway says:

    It’s a bit rich of the Remainers to blame the recent downturn in the economy on fears of Brexit, when it is they who have raised fears of Brexit with Project Fear!

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