Post Referendum Debrief July 2nd


Andrea Leadsom emerges as main challenger to May


The Telegraph front page headline is the emergence of Andrea Leadsom as key challenger to Theresa May for the Tory leadership.  IDS is backing her, and she is expected to announce the support of thirty Conservative MPs next week.  Meantime it reports fury with Gove in the Tory shires, incensed at the back-stabbing of Boris.

The man who wields the dagger never wears the crown: This sounds so like Shakespeare – but perhaps originates more prosaically with Gavin Esler.   Oh well.  More recent.  Slightly less distinguished.  But a quote applied first to Boris, and now equally appropriate to the latest knife wielder, Boris’s own assassin, Michael Gove.  And just as support bled away from Boris, so now it seems to be melting away from Michael.  He insists he didn’t want to be Prime Minister. Now he finds that no one else much wants him in the job either.

When I read that Andrea Leadsom is now ahead of Gove and running second to Theresa May, I wondered if it was amongst MPs, or Tory Party members.  Neither.  It’s with the bookies – usually the most accurate forecasters. She is also storming ahead in social media (although maybe I mostly follow people who are likely to support Andrea).

Perhaps a two-woman race in the end?  Dull, grey, last-decade Theresa, or sharp, tough, experienced, articulate, committed, clean-hands, no-baggage Andrea?  Tough choice.

May ahead?  Certainly the press have Theresa May in a cakewalk to Number Ten.  The Mail: “MAYMENTUM” (though it notes that Andrea Leadsom is ahead of Michael Gove)   And the Mail also accords her the whole of Page five on “Theresa’s Tory values”. The i: “May heads for No. 10”.

The EU on the back foot: In the same issue of the Specky quoted above, economic commentator Liam Halligan argues that it’s the EU, not the UK, that’s now on the back foot.

Well done Wales!

They’ve made it to the semi-finals of Euro 2016.  And they voted strongly for Brexit.  Great days for the Principality.

Morning Star for a good laugh

The Morning Star is a paper you would never read for news or comment — but I’ve found it can certainly offer you a chuckle over the cornflakes.  How about “GOVE AWAY! King Rat Tory told to back away from leadership bid”.  Hire that sub-editor!  A brilliant headline.

Osborne ditches plan to balance the budget

George Osborne has just announced that he will no longer be able to balance the budget by 2020 – just as he was unable to balance it by 2015.  This time, however, he has his excuse ready to hand.  Although it was clear earlier this year that the target was out of reach, he can now blame it on the Brexit vote.  How jolly convenient.

An Independent Scotland would be like “Greece without the sun”

A report from the Centre for Policy studies reaches a stark conclusion about the prospects for a so-called “independent” Scotland in the EU: it would be “like Greece without the sun”. That should have Nicola choking over her porridge.

Austrian election re-run

The Austrian Supreme Court has upheld an objection to the recent Austrian Presidential Election, which now looks likely to be re-run.  In the first run, the Freedom Party candidate Norbert Hofer lost by a tiny margin.  He now hopes to win second time round.  There is a normal electoral pattern where if a loser challenges a result on a technicality, the public, annoyed at having to vote all over again, punish him by affirming the previous winner by a big margin.  But intruding into this scenario we now have the British Referendum result.  Will it galvanise voters to support a eurosceptic party?  Or perhaps the volatility of markets in the  week after the vote will intimidate them?  We shall see.

But I am annoyed by the MSM characterisation of the Austrian Freedom Party as “Far Right”.  I’ve met some of their people in the European parliament, and I find them measured, moderate and reasonable.  They just happen to believe in their country, which constitutes them “far right” in the BBC/Guardian world-view.

London house prices down

The Evening Standard leads with “House prices hit by Brexit fallout”.  I suspect that, as with the FTSE, this could prove to be a nine-day wonder.  Or perhaps two days.  If so, some owners may be concerned – although it won’t trouble them if they’re not selling.  But for thousands of young people desperate to buy their first home, it’s splendid news.

John McDonnell: Brexit result must stand

Labour’s Shadow Chancellor has insisted that the Brexit result must stand. Funnily enough, French President François Hollande seems to agree: “Brexit result cannot be cancelled or delayed”. This follows from Cecilia Malmstrőm’s insistence yesterday that negotiation would have to come after invoking Article 50 – and the UK should get on with it (although the BBC suggests that some other EU officials beg to differ).   I can’t remember when I’ve been so in agreement with Labour, the French Presidency and the European Commission.












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44 Responses to Post Referendum Debrief July 2nd

  1. Eric Worrall says:

    Is it just me, or does anyone else think of Gove as “Black Adder”?

  2. Mary Young says:

    ‘Greece without the sun’ – great line.

    Those of us who have followed Andrea Leadsom’s Commons debates on energy and latterly her smacking of the SNP stooges at the Scottish Affairs Committee renewables inquiry – and they didn’t even see it coming – have backed her from the beginning. She is firm, articulate, logical and understands the grass roots.

    I believe that the referendum has empowered the ‘little person’; half have been further empowered by the result. They are now making their voices known through social media. If one compares the Twitter likes to Leadsom’s announcement with those to May’s, there is no contest. Leadsom is leaving May standing; the latter is out of date; out of touch, and Leadsom represents a breath of fresh air; a fresh start.

    • vera says:

      And we don’t want for PM someone who put career before country either.

    • MartinW says:

      Some newspapers are, idiotically, calling Andrea Leadsom a hypocrite for changing her mind (since 2013) on membership of the EU. For myself, when a politician changes his or her mind in the light of changed circumstances, it is something that inspires confidence and respect. The only exception would be when it is done for expediency’s sake – and it is easy to detect this (as in Cameron most of the time, I’m sorry to say). How is it possible to respect a politician who never changes his or her mind on anything? No one forgets that Margaret Thatcher eventually, and rightly, changed her mind on the EC/EU (and was deposed for doing so).

  3. I’m thinking of rooting for Leadsom
    (The Tories need someone to lead-’em)
    Her CO2 guff
    ‘May’ just have been bluff
    Gove’s decline looks too certain to stem

  4. Ex-expat Colin says:

    Enter the BBC..back IN:

    “Five per cent of Leave voters would now change their decision and vote to stay in the EU, according to a new poll”.

    No worry… we all believe that. WTF?

    Anything like this lot I wonder:
    Someone is going to win the “bet you can’t get more than 1000 freaking idiots to gather in 1 place pointlessly” bet. #marchforeurope

    • SueS says:

      Totally sick of the BBC. Since the ballot was a secret one how can this poll have any credibility. They are just going all out to destroy Brexit.

      • ian wragg says:

        10 out of 10 fir Owen Patterson last night telling the BBC news presenter to get over it having backed the wrong horse. He put a very positive argument forward but she was having none of it.
        then came some professor of some obscure think tank saying the surge in the Footsie was a fluke a=nd all first born would be slayed.

  5. SueS says:

    I’m very worried that the remainer May be PM. I can see she will cause an excessive delay the triggering Article 50. I understand that next March a treaty kicks in preventing countries from leaving the EU without the permission of 60% of other EU nations. Is this true Roger and could we find ourselves trapped? I would like Andrea to become PM but I’m concerned that there was bad publicity around her using legal, but controversial trusts to minimise inheritance tax a few years ago. I’m concerned that all this will be ‘leaked’ again just before the vital vote to try to scupper her chances.

    • Roger Turner says:

      Please just read through what you wrote again.
      Am I wrong in thinking this site is not private?
      If so how do you propose stopping up the “leak”

      • SueS says:

        As it is already on social media and in the public domain I don’t think I could do that. I’m rooting for her 100%.

  6. Kevan Chippindall-Higgin says:

    Mrs Grey May is popularly supposed to have done a good job as Home Secretary. She sort of backed Remain while actually speaking Brexit, particularly with regard to uncontrolled immigration.

    But here is the thing. As Home Secretary, she has totally failed to return failed asylum seekers and has let in as many non EU migrants as there were EU. She could have delivered Dave’s promise to get immigration down to the tens of thousands from the parts of the world where she can decide who comes and who stays.

    In this, she completely failed. For the Remain camp wringing their hands about the end of the world being nigh, had she done a proper job, the figures would have looked far, far better and might well have swung the vote the other way.

    We must thank Mrs May for saving her country through sheer incompetence, but she is not the person to lead it. I too watched Andrea Leadsom in the various debates and she invariably dealt with questions and points sensibly, logically and clearly. She also frequently took a slightly different angle which made a huge difference.

    By contrast, Mrs May was nowhere to be see, probably because when she did appear, she was not only damaging to her cause but made statements that were quite impossible to deliver. Being a member of the EU means being signed up to ECHR. End of conversation.

    She is also heartily disliked by the police, normally a body that is pretty solid Tory in its outlook. That takes a bit of doing.

    Andrea is the only person as far as I am concerned for another reason too. She had a real job for many years before politics and that is gold dust. She can see both sides of the coin.

    If she wins, I hope that she instigates further cost savings in the public sector. How? Switch off some of the pointless administration stuff for a while and see if it affects the front line. If it does not, leave it switched off and deploy the staff to the front line. I am thinking in particular of the reams of warranted police officers running pointless programmes and driving desks rather than vans full of criminals to jail.

    This would probably double the number of front line officers, which is what we want and need while removing pointless paperwork would make them all more productive. It would also raise morale in the police and public alike and hopefully lower it among the criminal fraternity. While she is at it, she could give the CPS a good shake up too.

  7. ian terry says:

    For the sake of this country it has got to be Andrea at least she has experience and knows of a life outside politics.

    The way things are going over in Europe this whole fart in a colander thing about having a rerun of the referendum could well and truly over within the coming months as Italy, Greece and Portugal are all facing more monetary troubles.

    Most recent figures showed Italy’s economy grew by just 0.1 per cent in the last quarter of 2015, Portugal’s by 0.2 per cent and Greece was in recession with the economy shrinking by 0.6 per cent.

    What I do not understand how all these problems with the EU club are not being highlighted at every opportunity by all the Leave spokespeople. With more than alittle bit of luck Scotland will have nothing to join or if it does it will not be able to pay the joining and membership fees

    • vera says:

      Regarding Scotland rejoining the EU – is Sturgeon happy with the destruction of the fishing industry caused by stupid EU regulation. This is not about ‘independence, it is about hatred of the English. We will be getting our fishing industry back, does Scotland not want to too? They will surely need all the industry they can get when they have to get off the English teat.

      • Yes, but Edward Heath, noting that UK fishermen in the early 70s numbered some 80,000, stated that they were too few to matter. However, he discounted that there are said to be 10 people in the fishing industry ashore for every one at sea.
        Though I am not at all a ScotNat., Heath did thereby earn no marks for sense or the good name of one Englishman, his own.

      • Jane Davies says:

        I hope he doesn’t rest in peace…..he was a liar and a traitor to his country.

      • Roger Turner says:

        Vera – this Scots so called “Hatred of the English”
        There is in my opinion an English “eminence gris” hanging over it – Heseltine.
        The Poll Tax was introduced first in Scotland, after there had been an enormous rates rise due to the fact that property had not been revalued for many years and it caused much distress that the Conservatives running the Scottish Office at that time said couldn`t be allowed to happen again and so the Poll Tax was introduced first there by a chap called Young or Younger. Somebody pointed out the Scots were being used as “Guinea Pigs”, by the nasty English based rulers in Edinburgh.
        Heseltine jumped in on this initial disaffection, did nothing to discourage it and in fact travelled the country whipping up Scottish fears and used the whole situation as a stick to beat up Mrs Thatcher – his own private vendetta.
        My wife who was a Scot (and we stayed there at the time) resented the fact that our Daughter who was at University at the time was included in the assessment (I think she had to pay about £1.50 per month)

  8. Roger Turner says:

    Come off it Roger, there`s far more at stake in the Tory leadership than Glamour, St Theresa (m)ay be dull as ditchwater, but we are really talking about pedigree and what that boils down to is BRexit of which there are three types.
    BRexit Total
    BRexit Lite
    BRexit As the Luvvies and the Chattering Class would have it.
    (Oh! I don`t think they are going to get away with BRexit “Not at All as apparently Fallon is pushing, some sort of “Dallas” type emergence from a dream).
    To me, the litmus test for “Total BRexit” is control of our own borders, the introduction of an Aussie Style Immigrant test and complete freedom from ALL the “competencies” of the EU and the expunging of any influence or hold of the ECJ over our everyday life, affairs and Supreme Court.
    All the candidates MUST,. have this question put to them, prior to the election
    I would not envisage any candidate unable to answer this question with an unqualified affirmative, being fit to fulfil the office of PM.
    BRexit LEAVE implied totality and the expectation of a return to full British Sovereignty.

  9. ian terry says:

    Zero Hedge on the net has a very interesting take on the Italian situation:

    Brexit was nothing more than a Europe-blessed “crisis” ploy designed to achieve two things: unleash more QE, which the BOE admitted will happen (most likely with the involvement of the ECB), and ii) to facilitate the bailout of insolvent Italian banks. To wit:
    Brexit will be just the scapegoat used by Renzi and Italy to circumvent any specific eurozone prohibitions. And if it fails, all Renzi has to do is hint at a referendum of his own. Then watch as Merkel scrambles to allow Italy to do whatever it wants, just to avoid the humiliation of a potential “Italeave.”

    Was this not the country that was being reported as Too Big To Fail a few months ago around the time of the Greek Crisis?

  10. As a Type1 diabetic, Mrs M. Is probably unsuitable on health grounds to be PM and, as a (?feigned ) Remainer, unsafe to us Leavers on political, or on moral grounds.
    Step forward, Mrs L., and include John Redwood, Michael Gove and, yes, Boris in your Cabinet.
    (Ignore, please, all calls from Remaining Tory “Grandees” and pro-EU MPs and Scotnats.)

    • Forgot to mention the need for inclusion in the new Cabinet of Owen Paterson, an effective voice on “greenery,” most of whose AGW-related provisos must be dropped, as merely futile, wasteful “virtue signalling”.

  11. Roger Turner says:

    I had a few words to say about the relentless and structured attacks on UKIP from all the failed political legacy Parties, the whole of the MSM and the orchestrated encouragement of programmes like Question Time.
    Nigel`s reaction was typical and robust in the EU parliament whose members he accused of being in “Denial”.
    And so too, our British Establishment, at least, still is.
    Uncontrolled Cross border migration from the EU was meant to be the main question Cameron was to have decided with his pre referendum negotiation. He ducked it with the result that this was actually the reason he lost the referendum. All the parties had tiptoed around acknowledging that there could be no case to remain without this matter being sorted and adopted the preposterous and dishonest position that things could be further renegotiated from “within”..
    It follows………….the only toxicity in this affair was in the Remain Camp.
    The verdict and political medicine administered by the Grass Roots population and their Champion UKIP and the GO Campaign was “Political Chemo”, the purpose of which is to eradicate the Cancer of what perhaps might be called the “Worship of a False Idol” for that is what the dogmatic obedience is to this truly awful poisonous apology for a “Democracy”

  12. Shieldsman says:

    What are the BBC doing commissioning polls with the licence fee money. Are they now in Government? Personally I no longer watch the BBC.
    The pollsters got it wrong remember. Asking lots of questions of a 1000 people of your choice on the result you would have liked, is not a rerun of the referendum.

    I cut this from the Sunday Telegraph: Pollsters are in a hole
    II think if I were an opinion pollster I’d consider a change of career – not least since the failure to grasp what was really happening in the EU vote has created an undesirable double after the debacle of last year’s general election. What deeply annoyed me was the statement – made so often it acquired the status of a truth – that graduates were pro-EU. Having three degrees from Cambridge and being a devout Brexiteer, I felt I inhabited a parallel universe. We may soon be short of manual labourers because of our decision to control our borders: there’s an option for our pollsters.

    Does Theresa May represent the ‘Old Guard’ of Clarke and Heseltine? Gove suggests a change of direction, but some of the hacks have poison in their pens.

  13. Sue Stuckey says:

    Need ex banker and trader Leadsom at the helm to galvanise confidence in the City and guide it through all-important Article 50 and ensure London remains the epicentre of global finance. Not a fan of Osborne’s economics, his fiscal revisions are just in time, perhaps? As ex Mayor, Boris could have a role. Meanwhile, on 29th Indy reported overseas investors snapping up London property as UK buyers desert the market. Next day Singapore bank UOB suspended loans warning customers that whilst property prices may go up, sterling’s weakness could leave them with negative equity. But some pundits forecast sterling will gain ground as the euro weakens (then fails). Nicola Sturgeon will cool over Scotland’s membership of the EU. John McDonnell combines loyalty with levelheadedness and commonsense – a closet Brexiteer I suspect..

  14. RODNEY OLLEY says:

    We all knew that the small matter of defeat in a referendum would not deter those pseudo intellectuals who think their opinions are worth more than the hoi polloi. They are on the streets today. I am surprised they have not asked for a rerun where their votes count double. Nonetheless we need to be on our guard and the last thing we need is any ego driven dissension among our UKIP leaders. The danger is not so much that we do not get Brexit but that we do so with so much leftover baggage that we are never truly out. To my astonishment I find the word ‘overpopulation’ is no longer allowable on the ‘Independent’s’ columns. This word can only be construed as racist by putting a construction on it that defies its dictionary definition totally. Still as the ‘racist’ word itself is redefined on a daily basis to suit particular circumstances I suppose I shouldn’t be too disgusted. If we stuffed eight men into an old red phone box it would be overpopulated. It would not matter what colour, ethnic origin or religion they were they would still be too many for the space in which they found themselves. Would it be racist to say it?

  15. mancunius says:

    Re The Evening Standard on property prices, let’s not forget that the Evening Standard – like Metro – is cannily operated as a freesheet by the Russian billionaire Lebedev family and handed out at tubes stations as propaganda for the toiling London younger City commuters. Lebedev himself has considerable property interests in London. The ES depends on advertisers who come largely from property sales (e.g. estate agents) and related retail branches, and the newspaper constantly gloats about London property price-rises and sounds the alarm about any possible dip. It’s clear which way that wind is blowing. As a business model, you couldn’t fault it. As information, it stinks.

    Also, some of this business-related pessimism in the ES is just sour grapes and attempted revisionism. Lebedev and his mouthpiece, Sarah Sands, have continually blasted out pro-EU propaganda during the campaign, via the ES and the Metro. And if you know London, you know that on the tube those two freesheets are read and imbibed by almost all the commuters. It must have strongly contributed to the non-left London vote to remain.

  16. mancunius says:

    I agree that it’s ludicrous to call the FPO ‘far right’ as the BBC invariably does. (Do they at every mention of Corbyn or Momentum say that they are ‘extreme leftwing’ movements? Of course not.)

    I read in Vienna’s broadsheet Die Presse today that Hofer has just said: “Great Britain has proved that the EU – as it is – as obviously become far removed from the people. I am therefore convinced that a renewal of the EU is necessary, one that goes back to its basic values and comes closer to its citizens. Any alteration of the EU treaties that further reduced the competency of the member states would automatically lead to an Austrian Referendum” [i.e. under his presidency, if he won]. (He also said he would campaign for President using the Brexit-Referendum as supporting evidence, and he called for an immediate referendum in Austria to leave the EU, if Turkey was ever to be accepted as a member of the EU.)

    We do seem to have lit a beacon. Thank God.

  17. mike5262015 says:

    Will someone please sign article 50. I’m getting worried about this delay, the E.U. is trickey ! Andrea Leadsom for immediate P.M. Won’t bother me, as I will not vote Conservative again. Labour needs to get it’s act together. Is it Socialist or a sort of Blairite Conservative ? Century overdue, but could we revert to Democracy in our voting, and change to P.R. ? Could we have a General Election when the foregoing is all in place, because whoever gets to be the new P.M., the Tory Party was elected by a woeful minority by first past the post vote system ! Firm negotiators are required. It could be headed by Leadsom as P.M., but whoever is the new P.M., he or she must be 100% Brexit, and the team must include Farage, and I would add Roger Helmer. – There must be some who know what is possible, and what is not !

  18. catweazle666 says:

    An Independent Scotland would be like “Greece without the sun” plus midges!

    As to the epithet “Far Right”, as far as the majority of the media – especially the BBC – is concerned, nowadays that covers anyone not to the Left of Vladimir Illich Lenin.

  19. Joseph Croft says:

    most social media sites are for Andrea Leadsom , I haven’t heard one good word for Theresa May , and I was absolutely flabbergasted to see she was in pole position for leadership , I am beginning to smell a Rat , here is a piece pulled from the Telegraph . ________________________________________________________________________________ In the run-up to the 2015 election, one of the handicaps David Cameron had to finesse was the fact that net migration to the UK was three times as high as he had promised it would be. Remarkably, none of the opprobrium this failure provoked brought forth the name of Theresa May, the cabinet minister actually entrusted with bringing migration down. Then, as now, it was as if the icy Home Secretary had a dark magic that warded off all critical scrutiny.

    The fact that her lead role in this fiasco went unnoticed and unmentioned likely reflects Mrs May’s brilliant, all-consuming efforts to burnish her image with a view to become prime minister.

    After all, Mrs May’s tenure as Home Secretary has been little better than disastrous – a succession of derelictions that has left Britain’s borders and coastline at least as insecure as they were in 2010, and which mean that British governments still rely on guesswork to estimate how many people enter and leave the country.
    People find this hard to credit because she exudes determination and strength. Compared to many of her bland, flabby cabinet colleagues, she has real gravitas. And few who follow British politics would deny that she is a deadly political infighter. Indeed Theresa May is to Westminster what Cersei Lannister is to Westeros in Game of Thrones: no one who challenges her survives undamaged, while the welfare of the realm is of secondary concern.

    Take the demoralised, underfunded UK Border Force. As the public discovered after a people-smugglers’ vessel ran aground in May, it has has only three cutters protecting 7,700 miles of coastline. Italy by contrast has 600 boats patrolling its 4722 miles.

    Considering the impression Mrs May gives of being serious about security, it’s all the more astonishing that she has also allowed the UK’s small airfields to go unpatrolled – despite the vastly increased terrorist threat of the last few years, the onset of the migration crisis, and the emergence of smuggling networks that traffic people, drugs and arms.

    Then there is the failure to establish exit checks at all the country’s airports and ports. These were supposed to be in place by March 2015.

    Unfortunately the Border Force isn’t the only organisation under Mrs May’s control that is manifestly unfit for purpose. Recent years have seen a cavalcade of Home Office decisions about visas and deportations that suggest a department with a bizarre sense of the national interest.

    The most infamous was the refusal of visas to Afghan interpreters who served with the British forces in Afghanistan – as Lord Guthrie said, a national shame.

    Mrs May has kept so quiet about this and other scandals – such as the collapse of the eBorders IT system, at cost of almost a billion pounds – that you might imagine someone else was in charge the Home Office.

    [It’s not just a matter of the odd error. Yvette Cooper pointed out in 2013 that despite Coalition rhetoric, the number of people refused entry to the UK had dropped by 50 per cent, the backlog of finding failed asylum seekers had gone up and the number of illegal immigrants deported had gone down.]

    The reputation for effectiveness that Mrs May nevertheless enjoys derives from a single, endlessly cited event: the occasion in 2014 when she delivered some harsh truths to a conference of the Police Federation.

    Unfortunately this was an isolated incident that, given the lack of any subsequent (or previous) effort at police reform, seems to have been intended mainly for public consumption.

    In general Mrs May has avoided taking on the most serious institutional problems that afflict British policing. These include a disturbing willingness by some forces to let public relations concerns determine policing priorities, widespread overreliance on CCTV, the widespread propensity to massage crime numbers, the extreme risk aversion manifested during the London riots, and the preference for diverting police resources to patrol social media rather than the country’s streets.

    There is also little evidence that Mrs May has paid much attention to the failure of several forces to protect vulnerable girls from the ethnically-motivated sexual predation seen in Rotherham and elsewhere. Nor, despite her supposed feminism, has Mrs May’s done much to ensure that girls from certain ethnic groups are protected from forced marriage and genital mutilation. But again, Mrs May has managed to evade criticism for this.

    When considering her suitability for party leadership, it’s also worth remembering Mrs May’s notorious “lack of collegiality”.

    David Laws’ memoirs paint a vivid picture of a secretive, rigid, controlling, even vengeful minister, so unpleasant to colleagues that a dread of meetings with her was something that cabinet members from both parties could bond over.

    Unsurprisingly, Mrs May’s overwhelming concern with taking credit and deflecting blame made for a difficult working relationship with her department, just as her propensity for briefing the press against cabinet colleagues made her its most disliked member in two successive governments.

    It is possible that Mrs May’s intimidating ruthlessness could make her the right person to negotiate with EU leaders. However, there’s little in her record to suggest she possesses either strong negotiation skills or the ability to win allies among other leaders, unlike Michael Gove, of whom David Laws wrote “it was possible to disagree with him but impossible to dislike him,”

    It’s surely about time – and not too late – for conservatives to look behind Mrs May’s carefully-wrought image and consider if she really is the right person to lead the party and the country.

    There’s a vast gulf between being effective in office, and being effective at promoting yourself; it’s not one that Theresa May has yet crossed.
    *Reproduced with kind permission of Jonathan Foreman

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  20. catweazle666 says:

    Well, well…

    Reproduced in full below is a Telegraph article by Jonathan Foreman* headlined “Theresa May is a great self-promoter, but a terrible Home Secretary”, which was pulled after pressure from her campaign. It is excoriating…

    In the run-up to the 2015 election, one of the handicaps David Cameron had to finesse was the fact that net migration to the UK was three times as high as he had promised it would be. Remarkably, none of the opprobrium this failure provoked brought forth the name of Theresa May, the cabinet minister actually entrusted with bringing migration down. Then, as now, it was as if the icy Home Secretary had a dark magic that warded off all critical scrutiny.

    The fact that her lead role in this fiasco went unnoticed and unmentioned likely reflects Mrs May’s brilliant, all-consuming efforts to burnish her image with a view to become prime minister.

    After all, Mrs May’s tenure as Home Secretary has been little better than disastrous – a succession of derelictions that has left Britain’s borders and coastline at least as insecure as they were in 2010, and which mean that British governments still rely on guesswork to estimate how many people enter and leave the country.

  21. Jane Davies says:

    I can’t wait for the final disintegration of the EU…….any bets as to how long it is before the gravy train crashes into the buffers?

  22. Joseph Croft says:

    here is a Template letter to send to your local Tory MP , it takes just a few clicks , ______________________________________________________________________________ Russ Blackie here is a template letter edit your name your mp’s name & who you think they should support i.e. andrea leadsom Dear (Insert name of Conservative MP here)
    There is growing disquiet that a ‘Remain’ campaigner might become the new Conservative Party leader and hence Prime Minister. I would encourage you to ensure that the will of the majority of the population of this country is adhered to and so choose a ‘Leave’ campaigner to lead the Conservative Party. It is clear that the Conservative Party drifted away from the grassroots feeling of both the Conservative Party members themselves and the country at large. Choosing a ‘Remain’ campaigner at this point would only confirm the disconnect between the Conservative Party and the wider population. I urge you to listen to the majority who voted last week in making your selection for a new leader.
    Yours sincerely,

  23. Roger Turner says:

    I was watching an interview with Sir Robert Rogers, the Previous Clerk of the House of Commons, discussing methods of BRexit.
    I was interested in one of the things he said (correct me if I got it wrong),
    that it was perfectly possible to effect total Brexit in one fell swoop by reversing article 72 (?), I assume that is the original Treaty of Rome enabling legislation.
    However, he advised against it for reasons of complicated disentanglement.- a sort of constitutional “step in the dark”

    But what about this clause 50, I understand Lord Junk has forbidden his gang of acolytes from any form of communication, never mind prior discussion of the way it should be approached.
    I cannot see the point of either party entering a negotiation without a prior agreed agenda.

    In my opinion, this prohibition is imposing a pre-condition which our team of negotiators would be unwise to accept and thus would also be unwise to trigger clause 50.

    I would suggest, as soon as the new PM is in position, the EU Junta, be advised of our fears, require the prohibition to be lifted within 7 days, following which another 7 days should be set aside for the agreement of the Agenda, failing which there would be an automatic- button clicked on clause 72 at least it will be a “certain” leap in the dark whereas clause 50 is probably a can of worms best avoided.

  24. Bill says:

    According to ITV news tonight 3/7/16 some legal partners called Freya partners but dont quote me on that are mounting a major legal challenge through the courts to force triggering article 50 only by a vote of parliament as they cynically calculate that the majority of MPs are anti brexit.

    • Roger Turner says:

      Presumably the government wouldn`t have to accept any judgement from the Supreme Court as it does not have primacy over parliament

  25. ian terry says:

    If ever the remainers needed to get their heads from where the sun ain’t shining and get into the real world, today is the day. The EU are looking to let Albania in before 2020 to make up for what they are going to lose with the UK leaving!! You cannot make this up.

    All this on top of there are six European nations whose debts are larger than their economic output, and 16 that have debts larger than the 60 per cent of GDP limit set out in the Maastricht Treaty.

    In 2015 Greece’s public debt stood at 177 per cent of its GDP while Italy was at 132 per cent and Portugal owed 130 per cent of national economic output.
    Thirteen EU nations saw their public debt accelerate at a faster rate than Greece’s over the period, while Germany, Italy, the UK, France and Spain have debts standing at over €1trillion.

    If we are forced to stay within the EU thanks to lawyers hell bent on a good fee and politicians that do not understand the words “You Lost” then I havthen I think you have to remind them that. Hell has no wrath like the electorate scorned.

  26. ian terry says:

    Please ignore the “then I havthen” please put it down to my age!!!

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