Post Referendum Debrief June 5th

Farage: bad news, good news

The bad news: Nigel Farage has resigned as Leader of UKIP.  Nigel has devoted more than 20 years of his life and his career to the task of reclaiming our country for democracy and self-determination.  Without him, there would have been no Referendum.  Without him and the party he largely created, we should not have been able to win the Referendum.  I have personally seen in recent years the extraordinary workload he has taken on (which before you ask is one reason among many why I shall not be throwing my hat in the ring). He now says he “wants to take his life back”, and few people have so well deserved an opportunity to do so.

The good news: Nigel plans to stay on as an MEP, and as co-President of the EFDD, our parliamentary group.  We can still expect to see him on the front row of the hemicycle, sparring with the europhile leaders of other groups, and with Commission President Jean Claude Juncker (until Angela Merkel gets Juncker fired).  That in itself will be a full-time job – I fear that Nigel will have to wait a bit longer for that fishing trip.

Death threats after the Brexit vote: The Express reports that Nigel has faced a number of death threats, and threats against his family, following the Brexit vote.    It is appalling that in our free country a man who has done so much for Britain can face this level of harassment and threat.  With the memory of the Jo Cox murder still in our minds, this level of risk to public figures should be a serious concern to all of us.

The Independent. “Farage’s Legacy”.  The Indy predictably offers an unflattering account of Nigel Farage’s resignation, blaming him for the short-term consequences of the Brexit vote (where the blame, of course, lies with Cameron and Osborne and their dire predictions which seem to have spooked the markets). They also warn of serious consequences “if migrant workers are forced to leave Britain”.  Get real, you guys. No one has proposed that migrant workers currently in the UK should be deported (though I note that Theresa May declines to guarantee their status).

The Metro: “Is this what they meant by Project Leave?”.  The Metro front page shows Boris and Nigel, with the Question “Is this what they meant by Project Leave?”.  They’re trying to build a narrative that the leaders of the Leave campaign are running away from the consequences of the vote (although Gove and Leadsom are still in the Tory leadership race).  But Boris wanted to be PM, and only withdrew when he realised he couldn’t win, while Farage will continue to play a major rôle in UKIP.  I had a similar line in a radio interview yesterday: “Whom do the public hold to account if things go wrong?”.  But we’re not interested in planning whom to blame if things go wrong – we’re interested in making sure they go right, and that Britain benefits from the opportunities which Brexit offers.

“UKIP plot to get Andrea Leadson as PM”

It’s extremely flattering when others believe you have almost supernatural powers to move the world – however improbable it may be.  But this one takes the biscuit.  The Times has a front page report “UKIP plot to install Leadsom as PM”.  In fact the detail of the story reveals that it is little more than an accusation from the May Camp following the decision of Arron Banks, a major UKIP donor, to support Leadsom.  It is surely no surprise that many UKIP members think that Andrea Leadsom is the best of the bunch seeking the Tory Leadership.  She had an excellent Referendum campaign.  She is transparently sincere.  She wants to fast-track invoking Article 50, and getting on with the Brexit process.  And as an added bonus, she understands the problems with wind turbines as few in the government do, and she opposes the absurdity of HS2.

Certainly in social media (or at least the parts that I follow) there is great support for Leadsom.  But the Times suggestion that UKIP is in a position to plot, and to pull strings, and select the next Tory Leader, is fanciful.  If only.

Johnson backs Leadsom:  Boris Johnson has declared his support for Andrea Leadsom.  Many of those previous supporters of the BoJo campaign are expected to switch to Leadsom.

Leadsom Launch event: The Leadsom launch campaign took place yesterday.  She promised to invoke Article 50 as soon as elected, and to control immigration.  She also undertook to protect the right of EU citizens currently in the UK.  Meantime the BBC continues to stoke unwarranted fears for the status of existing immigrants.

Theresa May has 100 pledges: The Daily Mail reports that Theresa May now has the backing of ten Cabinet Ministers and 100+ MPs.  May has promised to go ahead with the Trident replacement.  There seems little doubt that May will top the list of two MPs which will be put to Tory voters in the country.  It seems increasingly likely that we shall see an all-woman short list, with Andrea Leadson also featuring.  May remains the bookies’ favourite, but in politics, the favourite doesn’t always win.

Schulz calls for “a real European government”

Both parliament President Martin Schulz and Commission President Jean Claude Juncker are facing criticism, and calls for resignation, on the basis that their pressure for faster EU integration is seen to have driven demand for Brexit in the UK.  But completely unchastened, Schulz is now calling for “a real European government” that could be voted in and voted out like the government of a member state.  But there’s a problem with the Schulz plan (beyond the fact that very few people, barring Schulz himself, seem to want it).  Before you can have a real, legitimate, democratic European government, you need a real, genuine European “demos“.  You need an electorate with a common identity.  As Enoch Powell put it, they need to “share enough in common, in terms of language, culture, history and economic interests that they are prepared to accept governance at each other’s hands”.  Sorry, Martin, but no such electorate, no such demos, exists in Europe.  The only way to deliver a democratic Europe is to have a Europe of democratic nation states, linked by free trade and voluntary intergovernmental cooperation.  That is the Europe that could be ushered in as result of the courageous decision of the British people to leave the dying, dysfunctional EU structure.

German business chiefs warn against “punishing” the UK

The FT reports that Markus Kerber, head of the German equivalent of the CBI, has repeated his warning against Brussels seeking to “punish” the UK over Brexit.  I have always argued that there is an overwhelming economic/industrial imperative for the EU to reach a free trade deal with the newly-liberated UK, and that German CEOs would kick the doors down in Brussels to get a good and timely deal.  It seems my point is not misplaced.  There seem to be three opinion groups in the EU: Senior politicians like Merkel, facing re-election fairly soon, are keen to do a deal with Britain to avoid trade blockages and job losses.  Business leaders are equally keen, recognising the importance of the UK market.  Only the bruised egos of the Brussels apparatchiks are calling for punitive measures.  And of course if the EU wants to “punish” the UK, it will find that it has done even more damage to itself.  In the current parlous state of the eurozone economies, that’s something Brussels really can’t afford.

UK set to pay Brussels £12 billion next year

The Express helpfully reminds us that despite the Brexit vote we’re still on the hook for £12 billion net next year. The next Tory PM may like to reflect that each month we delay invoking Article 50 will cost the UK economy another billion pounds in EU budget contributions.  Germany of course is very concerned that after Brexit, it may be called upon to pick up the slack in the EU’s budget.  The new accession countries in the east won’t help – they’ll be net recipients, not contributors.

Standard Life suspends property fund redemptions

The Guardian reports that Standard Life has suspended redemptions from its property fund owing to uncertainty in the property market following the Brexit vote.  This seems to be another legacy of Osborne’s Project Fear.  I expect markets to stabilise within weeks, and Standard Life to resume redemptions.

A tax haven on the EU’s doorstep?

Juliet Samuel in the Telegraph has an interesting take on Osborne’s plan to cut corporation tax in order to promote inward investment following Brexit: she describes the UK as “a giant tax-haven on the EU’s doorstep”. Neat idea.

Sweden: more trouble with migrants at public gatherings

Distasteful it may be, but we should be aware of it.  There are more reports of assaults and rapes by “young men of foreign appearance” at two Swedish pop festivals over the weekend. No wonder that Sweden’s legendary tolerance of immigration is coming under increasing strain.


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33 Responses to Post Referendum Debrief June 5th

  1. foxbarn says:

    A great roundup again. Please, please get this onto a new, better looking UKIP website, which people can turn to for a breath of fresh air after all the rubbish in the newspapers and downright lies of the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation.

  2. “Whom do the public hold to account if things go wrong?”

    The government, of course! Why does everybody persist in confusing the referendum with a general election, and Vote Leave with a political party?

    Vote Leave was a campaign to answer a question. That has been done, and Vote Leave’s reason to exist has disappeared. Which is why the campaign’s assets are being liquidated following a long e mail to all its activists saying “Thank you, and goodbye.”

    The public’s will made manifest, it’s for the government to determine the best way to proceed — and to answer for the consequences of failure. Same as in any democratic society.

    • RobtheFox says:

      Absolutely right in what you say. The referendum determined by a very slender percentage majority that the UK would leave the EU – nothing else. All the promises put forward by the Leave camp are merely suggestions and many are fancıful and beıng shown as not viable.
      It will be for the government to determine what advantages, if any, can be wrung from the decision and to consider what steps can be taken to counter the disadvantages of the result.

    • Roger Turner says:

      How much would it cost UKIP to buy Vote LEAVE assets. Their subscription list of addresses is vital for UKIP to get their hands on – in fact they should be handed over free as a gesture of good will, after all 4million of those 17.4 million votes were probably UKIPs and vote leave would not have an asset at all to liquidate without the joint contribution of UKIP.

      • foxbarn says:

        A very, very good question Roger and I mentioned this to various top UKIP people at the outset. UKIP should have a MASSIVE database by now but hasn’t, it’s been screwed up. But I doubt Arron Banks will let his go, it represents some real political power.

  3. Anyoldiron says:

    So the people of this Country fought TWO World Wars so that we could Govern ourselves rather than have foreigners Governing us? TWO WARS ALL FOR NOTHING? We now continue to PAY foreigners to Govern us, plus expenses of course, which will be forever. So WHY do some of you vote for MP’s in that House of Commons? What is the point in having ANYONE IN THOSE TWO ONCE HIGHLY THOUGHT OF HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT when all THEY can do is obey the Treaties, they, between themselves have raitified? My Generation went through a full scale WAR TO PREVENT FOREIGNERS GOVERNING US. What indeed WAS that WAR for eh? We even PAY those same foreigners to do so.

    • Dung says:

      Did you by any chance sleep through the last two weeks? ^.^

      • Anyoldiron says:

        See “Smart meter rollout” Check if this is going through for yourself.

        The EU aims to replace at least 80% of electricity meters with smart meters by 2020 wherever it is cost-effective to do so. This smart metering and smart grids rollout can reduce emissions in the EU by up to 9% and annual household energy consumption by similar amounts. To measure cost effectiveness, EU countries conducted cost-benefit analyses based on guidelines provided by the European Commission. A similar assessment was carried out on smart meters for gas.

    • foxbarn says:

      It’s taken a long time and a lot of effort for the post war generation to wake up and do something about the TREACHERY AND STUPIDITY of the political classes. This referendum is only the first step.

      • Roger Turner says:

        You are right there foxbarn, in fact there is a very deep layer of apathy overlaying our people and the body politic fostered by the treachery and stupidity of the political classes within this country and the EU and dare I say it pumped up by our erstwhile “friends” abroad (The more I think about Obama`s cheek in coming over here and giving us our orders – it`s akin to the Queen going over to the States and telling them what to do- it`s UNTHINKABLE – thye cheek of the man).
        But what really worries me is “How are we going to get the EU out of our national psyche?
        How are we going to get it out of our education and university system?, how are we going to get it out of the law?, out of parliament?, off our roads?, off our railways?, off our seas? out of our Foreign Office,?, out of the Lords and Parliament?, out of Local Government?- when the first thought of everyman waking in the morning IS THE EUEUEU, it is an “Ism” we have verily worshiped at its shrine, we have been bewitched with its power, we have been sated like drunken idiots – we have been bought and groomed with our own money.
        What fools we have been.I
        Tell me someone how are we to be rid of its total pernicious effect???

      • foxbarn says:

        It’s a long road Roger!

      • Anyoldiron says:

        How many more EU REGULATIONS, Directives etc are STILL going to be put through when the people of this GREAT Country want to be FREE FOREVER FROM FOREIGN RULE? I hope I am not on my own in checking-for it is up to ALL of us, and certainly those in our Houses of Parliament not to put through any more EU Regulations, Directives etc.

  4. Nigel Farage is a national hero

    • foxbarn says:

      Damn right he is!

      • RobtheFox says:

        Somehow I suspect that there are over 16 million who might not agree with you. Including perhaps Douglas Ukip’s only Westminster MP

      • foxbarn says:

        A few more years in the EU and the penny would drop for many of them. Some parts of the country were very pro-EU, future mass building to house vast numbers of EU migrants should get started in those areas but in my part of Surrey, residents are already shouting ‘not in my back yard!’ You couldn’t make it up. The other one I like from my pro-EU friends is whining about not being able to get a seat on a commuter train, without a hint of irony.

  5. Pamela Preedy says:

    Nigel Farage is our national saviour in peacetime, just as Churchill was in wartime. He has had to fight enemies at home as well as enemies abroad, and has done this for 23 years without giving up even when it seemed an impossible task. He deserves a knighthood and a seat in the Lords if he wants them. Nigel deserves to be honoured and praised. One day, when even the most intractable Remainers look around at a free, prosperous Britain and wake up from their EU delusion at last, he will be seen as the great man he is and receive the accolades that are his due. My love and gratitude and that of UKIP members and voters throughout the country are Nigel’s heartfelt tributes today.

  6. Sue Stuckey says:

    Most seriously, who will recommend/nominate or whatever … Nigel Farage for a peerage? It would be wonderful for his very many admirers and supporters and a proper (I’m told he likes the word ‘proper) tribute to know that something is in hand for the New Year’s Honours’ List.

    • foxbarn says:

      A good question Sue!

    • One day Nigel Farage will get the credit he deserves.

      What the extremists cannot face up to is that the majority by definition are the moderates. They are the mainstream.

      The BBC and Labour (whichever wing) and the Remain wing of the Conservatives are the odd ones out.

      • Graeme Chegwidden says:

        Indeed. I signed a government petition for Nigel to receive a knightood but it was rejected. Apparently only individuals can recommend someone for an honour. I think Roger or someone who has worked closely with Nigel should submit an application:

  7. Ex-expat Colin says:

    UK : “Reform or we’ll leave”
    EU : ” We do not reform”
    UK : “Bye”
    EU: “We do not reform”

    Without reform, we are sleepwalking towards a disaster, towards another 27 referenda. It is now or never.

    oh..the Stupid

  8. Ex-expat Colin says:

    Who did this !!

  9. mike5262015 says:

    Nigel Farage is one of the most misunderstood, and successful politicians since Churchill. If you can recall, Churchill was total poison until Chamberlain was seen to have been well taken in by Hitler, and went on to be the victorious P.M. in the winning of WW2. Thankfully no bullets or bombs were used this time, but Farage came through a similar dislike, and bore the mantel of Fruit cake and Looney, then scared Cameron into a referendum, by Tory votes going to UKIP. The final outcome is not yet known, but the vote to leave the E.U. has been won, and it falls to the minions to negotiate a full Brexit. With Nigel Farage now resigned from Leadership of UKIP, but still an MEP, it would seem to be obvious common sense for him to be in the team for the final negotiations. One more parallel with Winston Churchill. – After he had seen us through WW2 and victory, he was voted out in favour of Atlee ! – I wonder if GB/UK has learned anything from history, or will it plod the same unenlightened path ? As for Nigel being given a peerage, is that all we can give this Gentleman ?

    • Graeme Chegwidden says:

      I asked Freddy Vaccha if we could start a fund to buy Nigel and nice thank you gift (if each UKIP member gave £10 that would buy him a replacement small plane or really nice car! Or a stunning holiday for him and his family. Freddy gave me the link to the Knighthood petition on the government’s website which was rejected due to incorrect protocol. I think a gift fund would be nice and they can’t stop us doing that…

      • RobtheFox says:

        Yes, set up a fund but instead of giving it to the undeserving Farage reimburse the 1.2 million UK state retıred pensioners living overseas who because of the exchange rate disaster caused by thiıs Leave decision have seen the value of their pensions fall by around 10%.

      • foxbarn says:

        Every remainiac is suddenly a forex expert. Can you tell us Rob how much sterling fell from July 2015, when ‘remain’ was considered a certainty to April 2016 when it was also considered a certainty? To save you the bother, as detail obviously isn’t your strong point, I think you’ll find it’s close to 14%. Sterling was MUCH lower in 2008 when we were firmly in the EU, buying just over one Euro; were you complaining as loudly then? But let’s not allow facts to get in the way when there’s BBC hype to regurgitate eh Rob?

    • rtj1211 says:

      Surprisingly, the people who actually fought in the war, not you, voted Churchill out. They did so because they wanted houses built given the bombing of the war and they thought Churchill was obsessed with promoting the Cold War.

      They were right as well. Given as how the Conservatives spent the 1950s building hundreds of thousands of houses a year……

  10. Anyoldiron says:

    Roger, A question for you. What is the point in putting through more EU Legislation when the people of this Country have voted to LEAVE the European Union? See “Smart meter rollout” above. This is an EU project so what is the point in putting it through NOW, when we are to set ourselves FREE from the EU anyway. What is the point? Is there some-thing the people do not know about-when the people should indeed know? Please explain to us all?

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